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nmedge
Guest
I use mostly credit card as now I seem to purchase online because of better prices. I don't care if they are tracking me. Now they are as bored as I am!
pay cash or debit card..???
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Funwithfuel
Custom
Your cell phone "pings" off this tower or that, or picks up Wi-Fi here or there. They know where you are and what you're talking about all the time. During the scamdemic, Chicago and other big cities were back dooring peoples cell phones to track migration patterns and monitor how conforming people were to their asinine rules for "shelter in place"
Funwithfuel
Custom
Yeah, we didn't just have some 20 something give all the money to his girlfriend and the DNC from one of those "crypto" investments .Yet another example why Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin make sense.
I like cash, but like everyone else, I got lulled by the convenience of swipe here, insert there. And , as has been mentioned, "national coin shortage " ,Is everyone collecting coins now? Do they wear out, were they due for replacement? Where did they go. I think it's much easier to palletize millions of dollars in cash vs coins, so we know 3rd world countries don't have it. Where did it all go? Maybe it's all piled up by the other commodities that are suddenly scarce.
Net Engineer
Master Class
It seems you're limiting your evaluation to current circumstances wherein crypto is primarily a speculative asset class which all things considered is in a proof of concept stage. Try for a moment to imagine block chain-based CURRENCY which is primarily used as a medium of exchange instead of an asset class. It's a situation where people become their own banks, where transactions are peer to peer and where central bankers ability to inflate away the value of currency at will becomes reduced.
Not to mention leaves transaction tracking as a wallet address to wallet address only proposition, i.e. if I don't know the owner of a given wallet then I have no idea as to the who or what of any given transaction.
Jfal
Professional
I use cash locally, because EVERY LGS I frequent offers 2-3% discount for cash (although most ammo I buy is online with a CC). And yes, your phones are listening to everything you say when on, as are your iPads and smart TV's and obviously those stupid home assistant's (Alexa whatevers).
Bassbob
Emissary
I don't think he was referring to covid as a scam. More the government's reaction to covid. Which was certainly ridiculous and had nothing to do with keeping people healthy.
If there is anyone left who trusts the CDC, covid medical resaerchers or the government, read this. "Research" shows unvaccinated people are 76% more likely to be involved in serious car wrecks. Doctors should counsel unvaccinated patients on traffic safety, insurance compaies should take vax status into account when setting rates and first responders should be extra cautious because people in car wrecks are probably not vaxxed. This is exactly the stuff that makes people say F the government and the CDC and your vaccinations.
People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study
The findings could justify changes to driver insurance policies, the authors say.
Keystone19250
SAINT
Although I respect your opinion and how you interpret his post I don’t see it the same way in him calling it a “scamdemic”I don't think he was referring to covid as a scam. More the government's reaction to covid. Which was certainly ridiculous and had nothing to do with keeping people healthy.
If there is anyone left who trusts the CDC, covid medical resaerchers or the government, read this. "Research" shows unvaccinated people are 76% more likely to be involved in serious car wrecks. Doctors should counsel unvaccinated patients on traffic safety, insurance compaies should take vax status into account when setting rates and first responders should be extra cautious because people in car wrecks are probably not vaxxed. This is exactly the stuff that makes people say F the government and the CDC and your vaccinations.
People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study
The findings could justify changes to driver insurance policies, the authors say.fortune.com
Could everything about how the Covid outbreak been handled differently??
Absolutely yes however my take on that is people who didn’t get infected or lose friends and family to it are the ones calling it fake news.
Belt Fed
Ronin
I had covid in October of 2020, that was before the clot shots and any kind of treatment. I was sick as a dog for about a month. the dr's more or less told me to go home and sweat it out cause they have no treatment for it.
When the vaccine came out me and the wife took it, it liked to killed me. my whole left side went numb, thought i was having a stroke. i never took a booster.
I believe maybe the shots worked on that first variant, but they don't work on none of them now. those boosters are just crap to make big pharma richer. My neighbor and his whole family got covid and are fully vaccinated with all the boosters. he even got it twice.
I was a good sheep before i got the stuff, i wore a mask everywhere and didn't go anywhere i didn't need to. when i got back to the truck i washed my hands with sanitizer every time. none of the precautions fraudci was pushing worked for me. i still got it.
and to top it off i got the flu shot this year and a month later i got the flu. i'm done with shots.
now that i have completely derailed this thread i will shut up.
When the vaccine came out me and the wife took it, it liked to killed me. my whole left side went numb, thought i was having a stroke. i never took a booster.
I believe maybe the shots worked on that first variant, but they don't work on none of them now. those boosters are just crap to make big pharma richer. My neighbor and his whole family got covid and are fully vaccinated with all the boosters. he even got it twice.
I was a good sheep before i got the stuff, i wore a mask everywhere and didn't go anywhere i didn't need to. when i got back to the truck i washed my hands with sanitizer every time. none of the precautions fraudci was pushing worked for me. i still got it.
and to top it off i got the flu shot this year and a month later i got the flu. i'm done with shots.
now that i have completely derailed this thread i will shut up.
Bassbob
Emissary
I got vaxxed January 2021. Both my elderly parents got covid and acquaintances of mine died from it. I know the virus is real. I also know there is a lot we don’t know about who and why are most seriously impacted. Dr Fauci’s contradictory rambling and the CDC ( the same org that wants gun violence classified as a public health epidemic) did far more harm to this country than good. Fast tracking an untested and experimental vaccine that may turn out to be as dangerous as the virus for some people and making it mandatory for large groups of the populace was irresponsible and politically driven. There is no doubt to anyone with the IQ of an average 7th grader that the democrats and the media shamefully used the pandemic to get rid of Trump and further demonize conservatives. Calling anyone skeptical of the CDC’s diktats “ science deniers” and equating them with flat earthers. And there is no doubt many cases of the flu and other conditions were labeled “Covid” for political and financial reasons.
Two years in now and we have all kinds of targeted “boosters” all being pushed out by big pharma with almost no FDA oversight. Meanwhile RSV is ravaging young children and I haven’t even heard where anyone is working on a vaccine for that.
If or when actual statistics come to light we will find out that it’s much like statistics for “ mass shootings”. To people affected by it, yes it’s absolutely devastating. As a statistical matter it’s likely far, far less significant.
Funwithfuel
Custom
So what is the recourse in the event of theft by deception or straight up pyramid scheming? I'm not anti-crypto. I just don't see any safeguards in place. At some point, you have to "trust" another, correct? How do I do that if I can't trust that I can convey my point in a group of "like-minded" individuals. At least cash, for now, carries the words, "in god we trust" and "this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private" At least for now.
Net Engineer
Master Class
Same recourse that you have if someone steals your federal reserve notes, Maddoff stole $$ from investors who have never been made whole, SBF stole crypto from investors who will never be made whole, different asset, same result.
With crypto you’re your own “safeguard” (bank), if you handle it foolishly you suffer the consequences, if you handle it prudently you’ll be fine. FTX wasn’t caused by any flaw with crypto it was caused by people getting suckered by a con artist.
BobT
Master Class
I'm switching to a cord of green wood and an Indian blanket!
humbertplug
Alpha
Everything will soon come down to the fact that they'll know about our every action. I'm very annoyed by the prospect of always using cash. Debit and credit cards have been a part of my life for a long time. I don't want to give up such a convenient method of saving my money and paying my bills. Hopefully, digital currencies can bypass such strict payment rules. I've been trading for some time and work strictly in the forex market opening time. So I have a certain amount of BTC, ETH, and Doge. If I can pay with this for weapons or at least cartridges, I'll be happy. I haven't heard of any weapons store that now accepts cryptocurrency.
Invisibleflash
Elite
this
pre-paid credit cards..???
lucky for me, i pay with my debit card, only once did i buy a gun with a credit card in person at the LGS, and maybe 2 times on Gun Broker
so, anyone who just wants to "stock up" will now be considered a "mass shooter". rather than say a hunter or survivalist..??
Dunno...but...
I was buying a gun mail order to ship from an out of state Cabela's to an in-state Cabela's. It was an $1800 sale. Chase refused the purchase. Nothing wrong with the card, near $25k unused limit. Discover accepted the purchase.
Chase contacted me later about fraud worries after the sale was completed with Discover. It may have been an innocent mistake. But it never happened until the credit card companies started to monitor gun sales.
bc22wm
Custom
"Texas’s power grid is unpleasantly surprising its users again. After last winter’s storm disabled parts of the grid for several days, causing potentially hundreds of deaths, a summer heat wave is once again threatening the grid. One potential solution Texas power companies have found is to turn up the temperature on some customers’ smart thermostats. Problem is, some of those customers weren’t aware that their power company could and would do such a thing — until their homes got uncomfortably warm.
One Houston family told a local news affiliate that their smart thermostat was turned up to 78 degrees with seemingly no notice other than a text sent after the fact. When they enrolled in a program called “Smart Savers Texas” — entering them in a sweepstakes to win up to $5,000 off their energy bills for the next year — these users didn’t realize that this also gave the power company permission to adjust their thermostat during high demand periods, like heat waves."
by Sara Morrison Jun 21, 2021, VOX
"Canadian banks have begun freezing the accounts of people linked to the trucker protests in Canada and the federal government is promising to take more accounts offline in coming days in an attempt to clear demonstrators from Ottawa, which has been occupied for nearly a month." NEWSWEEK
Not so flat out ridiculous or hyperbole to the extreme, just hasn't gotten to that point yet. YET!
Cash is king.
Jfal
Professional
If y'all need an example of what some are talking about....2 years ago Justin Trudeau seized and closed the bank accounts of as many truckers as his government could identify for peacefully protesting political issues in Canada. For me that would mean canceling my debit card, credit card and access to cash in said accounts. A "kill shot" if you will. It can happen, it has happened, I don't care a whit about anyone saying it's hyperbole. Since my last post on this thread I have consciously moved more toward cash, and will continue to do so.
looks like bc22 beat to most of my post! edit-add
looks like bc22 beat to most of my post! edit-add