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Project Warhammer: Beginning a Shotgun Journey + Bonus

I beg to differ. The sound of a pump shotgun racking a shell, is the most recognized sound ever. Especially to criminal.
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Hans- You forgot Shotgun myth #3! We're all doing it wrong! All you need is a double barrel 12 gauge, point it straight up in the air from your balcony, and fire both barrels to stop the threat as recommended by an "expert" we all know. :ROFLMAO:
 

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That Steve Fisher vid I posted on the previous page is really worth watching, esp. the part about common failures he's noticed after teaching many shotgun courses ("Hardware Failures - 0:41). I like his point about how many people create their own problems when they try to turn a shotgun into an AR and hang too much stuff on it. A good light, a way to carry extra ammo on the gun and a sling are all you need. Keep it simple.
 
I've owned this Mossberg for well over a year now, but one thing I've been really stymied with on the Retrograde 18.5" is finding a light mount that works with the short barrel/tube + the heat shield. I know it looks cleaner and more 'traditional' without a light on it, but I believe a HD shotgun should have a light. Most mounts won't work with the heat shield in particular, and for the longest time, I couldn't find any solution that worked. I finally found this from CDM Gear and it mounts directly to the forward heat shield mount with longer screws, and works perfectly:

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I already had an Inforce Gen 2 WML laying around that I wanted to use for this - it sits much lower profile than the Streamlight TLRs that I have, and I like the position of the tail switch on the Inforce. Of course, one thing leads to another, and given the length of the Inforce, it wouldn't attach directly to the CDM mount without toughing the fore-end slightly. Luckily, I had a low-profile 45º mount on hand which solved that problem:

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With the offset, the Inforce mounts no problem, and is actually in the perfect position for my thumb to activate the light when the fore-end is all the way forward:

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Also, here's a close-up of the XS Big Dot sight I put on the Retro. A huge improvement over the brass bead that comes with the gun:

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And now that I've solved the WML dilemma, this is the finished product. I don't plan to mess with this anymore.

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I've owned this Mossberg for well over a year now, but one thing I've been really stymied with on the Retrograde 18.5" is finding a light mount that works with the short barrel/tube + the heat shield. I know it looks cleaner and more 'traditional' without a light on it, but I believe a HD shotgun should have a light. Most mounts won't work with the heat shield in particular, and for the longest time, I couldn't find any solution that worked. I finally found this from CDM Gear and it mounts directly to the forward heat shield mount with longer screws, and works perfectly:

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I already had an Inforce Gen 2 WML laying around that I wanted to use for this - it sits much lower profile than the Streamlight TLRs that I have, and I like the position of the tail switch on the Inforce. Of course, one thing leads to another, and given the length of the Inforce, it wouldn't attach directly to the CDM mount without toughing the fore-end slightly. Luckily, I had a low-profile 45º mount on hand which solved that problem:

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With the offset, the Inforce mounts no problem, and is actually in the perfect position for my thumb to activate the light when the fore-end is all the way forward:

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Also, here's a close-up of the XS Big Dot sight I put on the Retro. A huge improvement over the brass bead that comes with the gun:

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And now that I've solved the WML dilemma, this is the finished product. I don't plan to mess with this anymore.

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That's not bad. I'd do a couple things differently, but overall, I could "ride the river" with this rig. ;)

One question: Does that XS Big Dot sight have a tritium center? If so, I might be in the market for a couple of them. The old tritium sight I put on my M500 in 1989 is dead now, and my 870 needs one too.
 
I've owned this Mossberg for well over a year now, but one thing I've been really stymied with on the Retrograde 18.5" is finding a light mount that works with the short barrel/tube + the heat shield. I know it looks cleaner and more 'traditional' without a light on it, but I believe a HD shotgun should have a light. Most mounts won't work with the heat shield in particular, and for the longest time, I couldn't find any solution that worked. I finally found this from CDM Gear and it mounts directly to the forward heat shield mount with longer screws, and works perfectly:

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I already had an Inforce Gen 2 WML laying around that I wanted to use for this - it sits much lower profile than the Streamlight TLRs that I have, and I like the position of the tail switch on the Inforce. Of course, one thing leads to another, and given the length of the Inforce, it wouldn't attach directly to the CDM mount without toughing the fore-end slightly. Luckily, I had a low-profile 45º mount on hand which solved that problem:

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With the offset, the Inforce mounts no problem, and is actually in the perfect position for my thumb to activate the light when the fore-end is all the way forward:

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Also, here's a close-up of the XS Big Dot sight I put on the Retro. A huge improvement over the brass bead that comes with the gun:

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And now that I've solved the WML dilemma, this is the finished product. I don't plan to mess with this anymore.

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That's a good looking gun.


GG&G makes many mounts for many shotguns, including this one. The only SG I have a light on is a 500. It's on a GG&G barrel clamp ( Courtesy of @Talyn ). All my other defensive shotguns have optics, slings with QD mounts and Esstac shotgun cards, that's it.
 
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