Snake45
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Exactly so.
Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts.
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Hellkitty207
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I'm glad that the Jury took the time to consider the laws pertaining to legal self defense AND look objectively at the evidence. I was honesty expecting him to get convicted on some of the counts in the indictment, given the political BS and Covid panic.
As a Parent, however, there's absolutely NO way I would have allowed a juvenile to go into any protest given the explosive violence that can erupt in a millisecond, armed or not. The "open carry" of a long gun, especially one that has been vilified for last decade in the media AND the White House wasn't a very smart thing to do, in my opinion. A concealed handgun (or 2) would have been less provocative to the media and judicial authorities. I think he was very fortunate the outcome was in his favor but the legal fees and upcoming civil lawsuits are going to hurt. In a civil suit there's no presumption of innocence and the Plaintiffs will have Lawyers lining up to get 40% or better slice of the pie. His troubles are far from behind him.
As a Parent, however, there's absolutely NO way I would have allowed a juvenile to go into any protest given the explosive violence that can erupt in a millisecond, armed or not. The "open carry" of a long gun, especially one that has been vilified for last decade in the media AND the White House wasn't a very smart thing to do, in my opinion. A concealed handgun (or 2) would have been less provocative to the media and judicial authorities. I think he was very fortunate the outcome was in his favor but the legal fees and upcoming civil lawsuits are going to hurt. In a civil suit there's no presumption of innocence and the Plaintiffs will have Lawyers lining up to get 40% or better slice of the pie. His troubles are far from behind him.
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uspatriot1960
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Funny you mention that. I just read that under Wisconsin law, a 17 year old can openly carry a long gun, but is prohibited from carrying a pistol. Rittenhouse testified that if he were allowed to carry a pistol, that’s what he would have brought.
Hellkitty207
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There's being permitted and being prudent. If MY kid wanted to go, I'd have said no. If you want to let your kid go be my guest. My son carries 24/7 and so do I. My wife and I have permits, despite the fact my state observes Right to Carry (for now). Point being, if you choose to be imprudent re-education can be painful and costly
Snake45
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I have yet to hear anybody, anywhere, say that it was a good idea for KR to go to Kenosha, or for his parents to "let" him go. Remember Maverick's Law: "You don't walk on the railroad tracks, you don't get hit by the train." That said, he had every legal right to be there, as much as anyone else, and has now been officially and legally found not guilty of any wrongdoing.
I haven't heard many of the media chattering skulls mention that it also wasn't a good idea for KR's assailants to have been where they were. "You don't walk on the railroad tracks, you don't get hit by the train." Or as Armed American Radio's Mark Walters might put it, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
Hurryin' Hoosier
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Agree on all counts!
Hurryin' Hoosier
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"Legal" and "Advisable" are two different things.
Keystone19250
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I will say this, he is a very fortunate young man to end up with this verdict.
Let’s hope he’s learned to make better decision’s in the future.
Let’s hope he’s learned to make better decision’s in the future.
Snake45
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That was pretty much the whole point of my post. Glad you agree.
If people are going to exercise their 1st Amendment rights and protest a cop shooting a guy in the back 7 times (which is what triggered the unrest in the first place), those same people (liberals and social activist) need to remember, they too have 2nd Amendment rights to carry and defend themselves from Kyle Rittenhouse and others that claim to be there to protect property that doesn't belong to them. You can't bring a skateboard to a gun fight.
The ones in prison or the one in office at the moment?
HayesGreener
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Whether or not it was wise for him to be there in the first place is irrelevant to the question of self defense. He was there legally, and all that counted under the law was whether it was reasonable self defense. We saw the same media and prosecutorial misconduct in the George Zimmerman case where factors irrelevant to the criminal law were used by the media to try and convict him in the court of public opinion.
In my opinion Rittenhouse has a defamation case against some of the media outlets. Some of the commentary I saw over the past weeks was over the top, false, negligent, hateful, or even malicious. The media has, and should have, great 1st Amendment protections, but when they intentionally report false information there are limits. I have had to deal with predatory, savage media in the past in what police administrators referred to as "media brutality". They will destroy reputations and careers, and leave the wreckage behind without a thought, even when they had it all wrong. When they cross the line, they need to be held accountable. I am sure there is a long line of attorneys who are lining up to represent Kyle in lawsuits, and the legal departments of many media outlets, and media insurance companies, are already preparing for defense against defamation suits.
In my opinion Rittenhouse has a defamation case against some of the media outlets. Some of the commentary I saw over the past weeks was over the top, false, negligent, hateful, or even malicious. The media has, and should have, great 1st Amendment protections, but when they intentionally report false information there are limits. I have had to deal with predatory, savage media in the past in what police administrators referred to as "media brutality". They will destroy reputations and careers, and leave the wreckage behind without a thought, even when they had it all wrong. When they cross the line, they need to be held accountable. I am sure there is a long line of attorneys who are lining up to represent Kyle in lawsuits, and the legal departments of many media outlets, and media insurance companies, are already preparing for defense against defamation suits.
ChanceMcCall
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Gov. JB Pritzker is showing his big city roots and lack of understanding of small town life with the statement: "Carrying a loaded gun into a community 20 miles from your home..." It apparently does not occur to him that people that live in small towns routinely travel even greater distances than that daily to work and shop, which is a typical lack of understanding of big city types of what goes on in rural America.
He may also be hiding his head to avoid reality. I used to have a condo around the corner from his home that I used when in Chicago and often walked past his front door with my wife while we were both carrying multiple firearms concealed. We certainly maintained our permanent residence much farther away than 20 miles from him. While we lacked any evil intent in packing either of us would have shot someone on his front stoop that was presenting a clear and present life-threating danger to either of us.
Pitdogg2
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Yep and my city paper has the Democratic socialists and NAACP making a statement that they failed to convict white supremacy.
They are all over this hand signal that Kyle gave at one time which was an okay signal. The same signal that our president Obama gave multiple times and was photograph multiple times giving the same hand signal. So by that signal of President Obama giving the same signal it's safe to say the President Obama is also a white supremacist ....right?
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