I can let my dad or cousin shoot it this weekend to see if there's any difference. I also sighted in my 6.5 creedmoor bolt action rifle today and all the grouped within an inch and I didn't have any flyers. 2 shots grouped side by side. One adjustment and bullseye. But maybe since the trigger on the AR is probably at least 2 lbs heavier than any of my other bolted rifles I'll let someone else shoot it to see to make sure.
Springfield Saint Victor AR10 .308 Grouping Issues
- Thread starter jcousar15
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Thank you! I did send SA an email and I plan to speak with a rep soon. I have the same rifle in 556 and it's a tack driver.
Bassbob
Emissary
Emailing them is pointless. Call.
Talyn
SAINT
So, the OP is sighting in the rifle and has to adjust the shots into the bull at 100 vs the original 25 all which is normal SOP. There's a thng called a trajectory that's a factor to adjust for because of the distance variations, plus shooting conditions & procedures.
But now is going to contact SA if the rifle is defective?
But now is going to contact SA if the rifle is defective?
I most definitely will call if the shots remain as erratic. Thank you!
Trust me I understand. I have a 30-06, a 308 bolt action, Creedmoor, 270 and a 556 AR that I have sighted in myself for years and all are 1 MOA. The only reason I'm considering contacting SA is because I took the scope I'm using off of my bolt action 308 and put it onto my 308 AR and I've never experienced this much variance with any of my other guns. I've made sure all scope and mount screws were to torque spec and I'm still seeing some "interesting" grouping. As @KillerFord1977 suggested I will let someone else shoot it this week and look at everything but if we get the same results I plan to start the conversation with SA to see what they suggest. I'm not saying that the rifle is defective, I'm just trying to figure out what's causing the results that are so different from all of my other rifles. I appreciate the feedbackSo, the OP is sighting in the rifle and has to adjust the shots into the bull at 100 vs the original 25 all which is normal SOP. There's a thng called a trajectory that's a factor to adjust for because of the distance variations, plus shooting conditions & procedures.
But now is going to contact SA if the rifle is defective?
I'm using a Vortex Viper HS Dead Hold that I took off of my 308 bolt action rifle. I have a wheeler torque wrench that I used to torque the mounts to spec on the AR.
@jcousar15 i have a thought… do you normally shoot AR’s? Could it be that shooting a rifle with a pistol grip affects your accuracy compared to a traditional stock of your bolt guns? I only bring this up because i have a mini-14 (keep your comments civil 
) and a Ruger AR556 both topped off with a TRS25 red dot. Shooting offhand at 25 yards i actually shoot the mini-14 better. I saw the same thing with my Maverick 88. I put a pistol grip stock on it (to be one of the cool kids) but quickly realized i shoot it better with the traditional stock. May be something with the pistol grip? Who knows… That’s just my thoughts.
I’ll be interested to see the results with your rifle in someone else’s hands.
) and a Ruger AR556 both topped off with a TRS25 red dot. Shooting offhand at 25 yards i actually shoot the mini-14 better. I saw the same thing with my Maverick 88. I put a pistol grip stock on it (to be one of the cool kids) but quickly realized i shoot it better with the traditional stock. May be something with the pistol grip? Who knows… That’s just my thoughts. I’ll be interested to see the results with your rifle in someone else’s hands.
Very interesting! That's something to consider. I put the Magpul Hunter stocks on both my 6.5 and .308 rifles which has more of a pistol style grip. I have the Saint Victor in 556 as well and I'm pretty proficient with it. Trust me the last thing I want to do is send my new beauty of to SA. I was very excited to get it and with the growing wild hog infestation on our hunting land I want to put her to work in the next week or two. Just need to figure out what's going on so I can put her to good use. I'll keep you all posted on how things go in someone else's hands. I would rather it be me on a learning curve to the AR with a larger caliber than a bigger issue. I appreciate all of the feedback@jcousar15 i have a thought… do you normally shoot AR’s? Could it be that shooting a rifle with a pistol grip affects your accuracy compared to a traditional stock of your bolt guns? I only bring this up because i have a mini-14 (keep your comments civil
I’ll be interested to see the results with your rifle
Well it's one of them black scary rifles, you may be a little nervous on the trigger. i would be scared to death behind
That's why I sold mine. Terrible precision with every type of ammunition. That and the jamming regardless of gasblock tuning. And that it came with a misaligned foregrip so irons were useless. I fixed those problems by getting rid of the rifle. I've never had problems with an AR like that before or since.
Lo-Profile
Elite
After checking the optics mounting.
I'd check the barrel nut torque.
Too loose or too tight will cause craziness as well.
Check the gas block and tube to make sure they aren't rubbing the handguard.
Check the gas tube goes into the BCG smoothly and doesn't bind.
I'd check the barrel nut torque.
Too loose or too tight will cause craziness as well.
Check the gas block and tube to make sure they aren't rubbing the handguard.
Check the gas tube goes into the BCG smoothly and doesn't bind.