Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “The EDC Shot You’re NOT Prepared to Take” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/the-edc-shot-youre-not-prepared-to-take/.
The EDC Shot You’re NOT Prepared to Take
- Thread starter Mike H.
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Mr. Untactical
Master Class
I'm wondering what a defensible armed encounter at distance would look like. We are inundated with stories about the legal perils of using a firearm in defense of yourself, loved ones, or even others around you. Many of those accompanying warnings point to how shooting someone far away can be conceived as unnecessary or even negligent because the opportunity existed to exit the situation rather than make a shoot decision.
Naturally, it's never wrong to vary our training routines and incorporate different scenarios, but if I'm having to engage someone at 75 yards, chances are I'll have an opportunity to rethink my strategy. If it's a lone gunman in a bell tower (for example), it's likely that running for cover is my best initial action. Then I can decide if it's worth trying to get into position to take an elevated angle shot with a 3.5" barreled weapon chambered in 9mm.
Naturally, it's never wrong to vary our training routines and incorporate different scenarios, but if I'm having to engage someone at 75 yards, chances are I'll have an opportunity to rethink my strategy. If it's a lone gunman in a bell tower (for example), it's likely that running for cover is my best initial action. Then I can decide if it's worth trying to get into position to take an elevated angle shot with a 3.5" barreled weapon chambered in 9mm.
Sld1959
Ronin
Fighting from Prone
Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Fighting from Prone” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/fighting-from-prone/.
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DeadShot
Alpha
Hello all. I'm new to this forum so I hope I don't make any stupid mistakes here. First, I'm wondering the same thing as Mr. Untactical about the unlikely events referred to in this article from a legal stand point. Second, with most people I've read about and heard about having their guns zero'd at 7/10/25-yds, I'm thinking there is a lot to consider about aiming adjustments that need to be made for distance shots that don't seem to be mentioned. For new and/or inexperienced shooters, both with and without optics, this can be a big deal and make a difference in the outcome. Just my 2-cents.
A 50+ yard shot with a typical defensive handgun is a LONG shot. I too can’t conceive of a situation in my normal world where that would be likely. I’ve played at 75 a good bit with a match pistol and with hunting handguns-both of which are way too big/heavy for me to tote everyday. I occasionally will try long shots with my carry pistol “just cause”. Given time to brace and take deliberate aim, it can be done but I’d hate to try it in an SD scenario. I would if forced too, but as noted I’d be looking for cover or an exit first.
rcurtner
Professional
Welcome to the forum from South Texas
Annihilator
Emissary
Welcome from eastern ohio, nice avatar!
Ex Air Force Security Policeman SP here and very long in the tooth. During the 80s a shooter at a base in Washington opened fire on shoppers at the Base Exchange one day. The on duty senior patrolman made a head shot at 75 yards with a Barretta M9 ending the hostile situation. Lucky shot? Probably but training and acquired skill kicked in to make the lucky shot possible.
Sld1959
Ronin
Hundred yard defensive shot is like the condem in a wallet of a teenager, never know if or when you will ever need it, but when you do you wanna be able to performHypothetical situations where a defensive shot at 100 yards is plausible aside, it’s not really that hard of a shot. Even with a VP9SK zeroed at 15 yards.
Phubar
Alpha
A good article, the most important thought to take from this and other self-defense articles is this... no matter what firearm you carry for self-defense, you must practice, practice and them practice some more, shooting live rounds, at varying distances. Until it becomes rote memory. As to the weapon you purchase for this use, if you do not feel comfortable with that even after repeated use, get a different one. Training with it is the key!
what the teenager was too naive to understand was if you kept that in your wallet it would've split by the time you needed it and bingo! shotgun wedding. Pockets gentlemen, keep it in your pockets.Hundred yard defensive shot is like the condem in a wallet of a teenager, never know if or when you will ever need it, but when you do you wanna be able to perform
DeadShot
Alpha
Thanks. Love the minions!
DeadShot
Alpha
what the teenager was too naive to understand was if you kept that in your wallet it would've split by the time you needed it and bingo! shotgun wedding. Pockets gentlemen, keep it in your pockets.
rcurtner
Professional
Welcome to the forum from South Texas
USMC6094
Custom
No matter how you train (and I'm speaking from experience), the LEO, and the armed citizen are REACTING to circumstances out of their control.
From in service training and case law, the defender is under much more scrutiny than the suspect. Especially if the distance is longer than say 10 yards.
Injury studies hover close, longer distance shots are not S.O.P. for a city P.D., patrol officer, or SRT (SWAT types) with a handgun.
Hallway distances for money, longer shots for confidence.
From in service training and case law, the defender is under much more scrutiny than the suspect. Especially if the distance is longer than say 10 yards.
Injury studies hover close, longer distance shots are not S.O.P. for a city P.D., patrol officer, or SRT (SWAT types) with a handgun.
Hallway distances for money, longer shots for confidence.