Snake45
Professional
Okay, but originally you said the "stamp" was "on the plastic furniture." This is not that.
The True Story Behind the Mattel M16 Rifle
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Okay, but originally you said the "stamp" was "on the plastic furniture." This is not that.
MN.Militia
Operator
I have this pic too. I LOL'ed!
MN.Militia
Operator
I have something nobody has posted. The original advert for the Marauder. Feast your eyes on this as we're reelin' in the years!
The photo in the article showing the mattel logo on the right side between the hand grip and trigger was stamped inside the of the hand guard. You had to remove the hand guard to see the logo.Tell us more. Where, exactly, was it "stamped?" How was it "stamped?" What exactly did the "stamping" look like? If you really saw such a thing, you should able to give some details. I want to believe you.
Snake45
Professional
Thanks for the response. I'm still vague on exactly what you're describing. Would it be possible for you to find that photo and post it here, or a link to it? I can think of several different meanings of "stamped" and "stamping," and several different locations on the "inside of the hand guard" of an M16A1 that raise questions in my mind. A photo of it would clear everything up instantly. Meanwhile, I am still ready to believe you, but I need more solid evidence or exact testimony. Thanks!
Raymo721
Alpha
This is what I remember. Take it or leave it. Not waisting my time on some one who only wants to argue the facts. Have a nice day, "Professional."
Snake45
Professional
You forgot to call me a RAAAAACIST!!! on your way out. That's considered very RUDE these days.
oceanmariner
Alpha
The group that got the ball rolling on reliability were known as the Whiz Kids in the Kennedy administration. A bunch of accountants with no combat experience looked for ways to make the M-16 cheaper. For the jungle the chamber needed to be chromed as it was eventually done. Otherwise rust would expand the chamber walls and either hold the fired case, stovepipe, or fail to load all the way. I was in Vietnam for several years. Early years the M-16 was a piece of crap that jammed w/o constant cleaning. Later years it was a piece of crap that worked better. I was told it still would jam in Desert Storm. Nice stuff they give people risking their lives.
The Whiz Kids also gave us McNamara's Boys. Draftees with a low IQ, too low for combat. I served with one. His brother came in with him on the buddy system to take care of him. It nearly killed him. Officers should have been smart enough to give McNamara's Boys rear area duty. But few had the IQ to figure it out. Many boys were easily killed or maimed. Many others were hurt trying to cover them.
The Whiz Kids also gave us McNamara's Boys. Draftees with a low IQ, too low for combat. I served with one. His brother came in with him on the buddy system to take care of him. It nearly killed him. Officers should have been smart enough to give McNamara's Boys rear area duty. But few had the IQ to figure it out. Many boys were easily killed or maimed. Many others were hurt trying to cover them.
Shootrj2003
Alpha
In 1972-73 there were m16a1 rifles embossed/ engraved with the Mattel insignia on the reciever magazine port area were they always mark the maker be it colt ,Mattel etc.this insignia was very much the official Mattel corporation seal with the “corrugated circle “around Mattel etc.it was approx.1 1/2” x 2” .These rifles were in 1st bn.2nd Marine armory and I observed more than 1 rifle so marked ,they were not uncommon.i was a Machine gunner ,never saw an M-60 so marked they were usually SACO Maine,but Mattel rifles were real and issued.
The Night Rider
Professional
It's weird to me how many Bots have chosen this discussion to respond to
Shootrj2003
Alpha
I don’t know if that was photo shopped but it is not the logo I remember ,I remember one larger and more clearly the Mattel logo and stamped into the metal not raised like that little one, Please don’t discredit old warriors with mockery .I know what me and many veterans of many services saw don’t add too the coverup,for whatever reason it’s being perpetrated.If America had enabled a win for the South Vietnamese govt. Mattel would have been waving the flag and claiming honors right along with Hanoi Jane.I was too late to go ,so I am a younger Vietnam era Vet but I am thus relegated to carry their colors as we fall to the years and discredit in any form is still shameful.
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Shootrj2003
Alpha
Why ,Are you a bot?I served honorably ,I know and any coverup is calling us incapable.
Here is an article discussing the topic of M16's being made by or parts sourced by Mattel that some may find interesting to read.
nationalinterest.org
Legend or Fact? Did Mattel Build Its Own M-16 Rifle?
Today, we’ll dig into the urban legend and examine any connection between Mattel and the M16.
nationalinterest.org
Shootrj2003
Alpha
He had his mind made up from the start.he also came along long after Vietnam Nam and its attendant political,public and corporate upheavals so my honors to him for his service but he can’t have seen or witnessed anything involved with Mattel.
