Oh i won't deny they are probably a fine rifle, i got turned off on Noveski, Daniel Defense and LWRC from three websites i frequented often. I was even a moderator on one. Every time someone would start a thread about any other rifle the AR snobs would pile on. and some of the excuses they gave these members was completely asinine and ignorant.
I quickly learned not to ever mention i have the cheap crap. lol I do not ever go to those sites ever now. don't even know if they are still around. i'm sure Arf.com is but the other two i don't know. the one i moderated on had a head administrator that was a complete asshat. the owner was a really nice guy but he put this bonehead in charge and he run off more members that i could count by ridiculing them for the type of AR they owned. then a few others would jump on the bandwagon trying to impress the 2nd in command.
We didn't get along cause i said what was going through my head and pretty much told him a few times he was an idiot. anyway i seen the owner wasn't getting rid of this goober so i quit. probably made the guys day. i did leave peacefully. i really wanted to tell him what i thought of his snobbish attitude but cooler heads prevailed and i let it go.
Truth known, i can't say is if i ever seen a Noveski rifle or LWRC. i have handled a couple DD and one had more slop between the halves than a cheaper DPMS model. it was new too. If the LGS hands me a rifle and the two halves don't match up tight. i give it back. that's a pet peeve of mine.
Ok i done rambled way too long. it done took a while to type all this with my two finger typing. but i won't make fun of anyones AR choice and you guys don't either, that's why i like this place. now we kid each other about different guns but it's all in fun.
But i long for the day when Hi point makes an AR.