My thought too. The guy may now have all the time in the world to train and learn about guns and gun safety, but that's moot. The idiot should never be allowed to have one.
I wasn't directing my comments to this particular story, only to 3 yr olds shooting people in general. And I only used the revolver since it's easier to describe to some how it will be handled by a 3 yr old. Your point is valid in that the story did not specify a revolver, but my same logic would apply to most semi-autos as well. Even with a round in the chamber, it would be very difficult if not impossible for a 3 yr old to release a safety if any, then be able to reach the trigger with enough leverage to pull it.
Why do you assume it had a safety to release?I wasn't directing my comments to this particular story, only to 3 yr olds shooting people in general. And I only used the revolver since it's easier to describe to some how it will be handled by a 3 yr old. Your point is valid in that the story did not specify a revolver, but my same logic would apply to most semi-autos as well. Even with a round in the chamber, it would be very difficult if not impossible for a 3 yr old to release a safety if any, then be able to reach the trigger with enough leverage to pull it.
Just think about how many full grown adults complained about the trigger on the Hellcat being so hard to use do to the trigger design. Many, many semi-s (not all) are similar in design ...... but none are designed for a 3 yr old's hand size and strength in my humble opinion.
Generally speaking that is !!!
Hans, you didn't read my post carefully buddy ..... I said "..... it would be very difficult if not impossible for a 3 yr old to release a safety if any, ......" (emphasis is mine) so obviously I didn't assume any gun had a safety.
One thing I’m wondering, if the dad was the legal owner but had no permit to carry last I knew in my state you can legally transport your hand guns to and from a shooting range. If I recall there had been a few other exception. Just not sure if they still apply in my state.
Not Missouri. When we first got concealed carry ( 2003 I think) it became legal for anyone who isn't a prohibited person to carry a loaded gun in their vehicle. You only needed a permit to carry on your person. We didn't become a permitless ( Constitutional ) carry state until 2017.
yes, in my state, you do not need a ccw for a gun in the car to be going back and forth to a range...but in MY state, it has to be away from the driver, like in the trunk, and unloaded, and the ammo must be far away from the gun, like maybe in the back seat?
Agreed! And I don't see how he could ever again bring himself to wanting ownership of another firearm!
Hans, you didn't read my post carefully buddy ..... I said "..... it would be very difficult if not impossible for a 3 yr old to release a safety if any, ......" (emphasis is mine) so obviously I didn't assume any gun had a safety.
We will have to agree to disagree whether or not a typical three yr old would be able to depress a 4-6# trigger. Most 3 yr olds simply do not have the reach, the dexterity, nor the hand/finger coordination nor strength to depress a similar trigger .......... whether holding "like an adult would" or not.
I never said it was impossible, I did say it was unlikely, and especially in so many similar cases. Of course there is somewhere a 3 yr old who can do all these things. But in reality, he/she/it would be a rarity, not the typical 3 yr old.
And, I would never be so bold, or crude as to tell you that "you need to stop assuming", or that "you need to stop" anything. I will assume you are a fully grown adult and capable of making your own decisions about your actions and don't need my direction.
And lastly I'll say this .......... this post of yours seems to me to be so unlike you and/or the majority of your posts. You are generally courteous, generally knowledgeable, and rarely if ever this belligerent. With all due respect, this post seems highly unlike you.
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My sentiments exactly. I have an old school Hellcat without a manual safety...
Well I'll disagree. Just recently there was a case where a woman got shot by her 2 yr old. She had him in a shopping cart with her purse next to him. In the purse was a loaded handgun (did not specify what model or style it was). The toddler pressed the trigger and shot the mother. He did not even remove it from the purse, just playing around in the purse, he was able to fire it.
Friend, it appears you read my post rather selectively. You quoted well what I said that you could find fault with, but totally ignored the part in that same post where I said ... "I never said it was impossible, I did say it was unlikely, and especially in so many similar cases. Of course there is somewhere a 3 yr old who can do all these things. But in reality, he/she/it would be a rarity, not the typical 3 yr old." Please note the word 'typical' here.
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One thing to consider is that after a shooting the police dectectives will swab the suspected shooters hands for gunpowder residue. Everyone directly involved would most likely get swabbed also.