Coup in Russia?

[Recusant]

Looking at this, I suspect it shows that Putin is much weaker than previously thought.

This is a guy who poisons rivals, or has them thrown out windows…

And he’s making a deal with a mutineer?

That’s not the move of someone who has a solid hold on power…

To me, Putin is between a rock and a hard place here. If he kills Prigozhin at this time the soldiers of the Wagner group may become unhinged and seek revenge. If Putin lets Prigozhin off the hook then he looks weak. I'd say Prigozhin will stay alive for awhile, but as soon as the Wagner group is back in the fold and contained Prigozhin days will be numbered. Maybe Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko will suggest that Prigozhin seek refuge in Mexico.

 

[The Night Rider]

I have to ask this question, does this guy think they're going to let him live after that?

 

[Lexie__M]

I have to ask this question, does this guy think they're going to let him live after that?

Very likely, after everything is settled, he will get covid and die.

 

[Cedric]

Again, go to ISW and read the update. In spite of this being a short lived coup, Putin and his defense establishment appear to be very weak. There were no viable reserves to protect the rear area having been sent to the battle lines. How this will actually affect the battles along the line of contact no one can say. Certainly though, Russian society is as fractured as ever. Does not make for coherent military moves or Russia's overall security.

 

[Lexie__M]

Again, go to ISW and read the update. In spite of this being a short lived coup, Putin and his defense establishment appear to be very weak. There were no viable reserves to protect the rear area having been sent to the battle lines. How this will actually affect the battles along the line of contact no one can say. Certainly though, Russian society is as fractured as ever. Does not make for coherent military moves or Russia's overall security.

The Art of War, by Sun Tzu or you can watch CNN-MSN-BBC-DW-yahoo-bing and follow along and trust them.

 

[Cedric]

The Art of War, by Sun Tzu or you can watch CNN-MSN-BBC-DW-yahoo-bing and follow along and trust them.

I would only base my analysis on some open source and overhead imagery and classified force assessments which I no longer have access to. There is a lot of static out there, bloggers reports, and the news which may be useful but also may be untrustworthy. Right now we are a wait and see.

 

[powerboatr]

Ye gods.

You look askance at Atlantic, but then quote Newsmax as a reputable source.

That’s…funny.

not saying they are reputable, just what they reported so we can search and verify for our own brains
thats it

 

[HayesGreener]

Crazy Russians. Who knows what they might do?

 

[Talyn]

Some of the Ukrainians are thinking this might be a ploy to redeploy/build-up a Wagner operation in Belarus to open a "northern front" against Ukraine, since Prigozhin is being exiled to Belarus.

More Russki maskirovka?

 

[Area52]

Everything is under control.

To demonstrate how serious the matter was, BigGuy, The Doctor & The Smartest Man He Knows took off for another planned weekender at the beach while Kacklin’Kam was out campaigning and fluffing the electorate in NC on Saturday.

Recall January 2022:
(Biden) "…reaffirmed the readiness of the United States along with its allies and partners to respond decisively if Russia further invades Ukraine", a White House statement said.

 

[powerboatr]

who is the doctor? the PHD who cant write her own work?

 

[Talyn]

Putin only lets folks sit at the other end of the table for meetings.

 

[7ate9]

What, intrigue and betrayal in Russia? There must be a tragic Natasha ballerina and some fine vodka in the story somewhere. Queue suspenseful Russian music a la Jack Ryan movie score and let the executions begin! It is in the Russian DNA.

Patton was so right.

You mean MacArthur

 

[7ate9]

Putin only lets folks sit at the other end of the table for meetings.

U fuunnnyyyy dude

 

[HayesGreener]

You mean MacArthur

At the end of WWII in Europe Patton said that since we already had the Army there we should square off at the Russians. He believed we would eventually end up at war with Russia. Patton died from injuries following a crash between his limo and a 2.5 ton truck before he said much more on the subject.

 

[Cedric]

who is the doctor? the PHD who cant write her own work?

No, actually. She's an Ed.D (shudder).

 

[Cedric]

Just another observation prior to the mutiny/coup/insurrection/kerfuffle... Several African leaders traveled to meet with Zelensky to try and broker some sort of agreement. They were dressed professionally with suits, coat and tie, etc. Z-man shows up in his OD green polo shirt. No matter what your views on the war are this comes across as Z being a complete, unserious ass.

 

[Cedric]

At the end of WWII in Europe Patton said that since we already had the Army there we should square off at the Russians. He believed we would eventually end up at war with Russia. Patton died from injuries following a crash between his limo and a 2.5 ton truck before he said much more on the subject.

In fact, the Red Army while being victorious, was completely spent. They had special detachments of Tartars scouring the countryside in Germany looking for food, drinkable water, fuel, you name it. We could have at least kicked them out of their zone of occupation and probably Poland. However, politically and from the soldiers' point of view it was over. Time to go home.

 

[HayesGreener]

Fighting Soviets in 1945 was politically unaccepttable in the U.S. 5 years later they were supporting North Korea and the Chinese with weapons, materiel, aircraft, and pilots in the Korean war. The did much the same in Vietnam. Patton was right.

 

[Lexie__M]

Some of the Ukrainians are thinking this might be a ploy to redeploy/build-up a Wagner operation in Belarus to open a "northern front" against Ukraine, since Prigozhin is being exiled to Belarus.

More Russki maskirovka?

I read this at another site: " This is a way to move Russian troops to areas north of Belgorod without drawing the unwelcome attention of NATO ISR platforms. Move the troops closer to the border and then disperse them. Which means Russia found a way to reinforce troops on a new potential axis of attack that will create a nightmare for NATO planners..."