Reasons for Concealed Carry: My Interview with a Psychopath

[Sheppard]

I am in total aggreeance, it's very sad , but mental illness is in the top two of societies main threats,
we need to protect our loved ones and ourselfs if God forbit we have to engage someone in that state of mind.
That's why we carry.

 

[bisonwings]

Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Reasons for Concealed Carry: My Interview with a Psychopath” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/reasons-for-concealed-carry/.

The medical system used to be available to handle individuals such as the one Dr Dobbs reported on here. However, in the late ‘60’s the rise of the bleeding heart movement sued various State and Local mental health institutions and resulted in the closure of most of them. The result was a mass release of unfortunate individuals such as the man in the story. Many of those folks make up our nation’s homeless, while many others contribute to prison overcrowding.
I have never understood unthinking, unrestrained bleeding hearts. They seem to be beyond the ability to understand reality versus utopia.
Were the the previous State or local institutions that housed these unfortunate individuals a great and wonderful solution? Most assuredly not. However, are the current state of affairs an improvement? Again, most assuredly not.
Is there a reality where we can solve this dilemma? Probably not, but to me the old system was of greater good to the larger population.

 

[Anchorite]

This is local to me and happened just last week. A woman was loading groceries into her car and was approached by an individual that the news at one point described as a panhandler. When she didn't give him any money, he shot her.

This is exactly why when I leave my Hacienda I am already at Yellow, bordering on Orange.....

Suspect in midtown Publix shooting identified

The suspect in the midtown Publix shooting on Saturday, April 19, has been identified.

www.fox10tv.com

 

[Shibadog]

I will. All too often I've watched I/M's BS head shrinkers and then go back and brag about it on the cellblock. Too many think they can "fix" someone. It just needs the right amount of counseling, understanding and drugs. They talk to an I/M a couple hours a month, and think they know what's best and everything that needs to be done. Never listening to the guard that spend 8-12 hours a day 4,5,6 days a week dealing with the little darling. If they do ask the guard, or look at the notes, they only take into account what agrees with their opinions, dismissing everything else. Too many times after being asked not to do so, the Dr.s will take an I/M off constant, 15 min watch, give them back everything that was taken and by the end of the day the guards are once again going in to restrain a bleeding, combative, or both I/M. While the good, educated professional is home with their family. 
Maybe I'm painting with too broad a brush, but that's my experience.

Sums it up well. Don’t bother confusing the issue with facts. The poor dears had a bad childhood, were bullied or some other touchy feely bs.

 

[3L120]

This is local to me and happened just last week. A woman was loading groceries into her car and was approached by an individual that the news at one point described as a panhandler. When she didn't give him any money, he shot her.

This is exactly why when I leave my Hacienda I am already at Yellow, bordering on Orange.....

Suspect in midtown Publix shooting identified

The suspect in the midtown Publix shooting on Saturday, April 19, has been identified.

www.fox10tv.com

Sums it up well. Don’t bother confusing the issue with facts. The poor dears had a bad childhood, were bullied or some other touchy feely bs.

I spent 3+ in the LAPD Mental Evaluation Unit, PM watch. Saw many certifiable 5150 WICs. None of the real crazies ever claimed to be abused, etc. I imagine that came about when they got lawyers. Few were actually violent, mostly just strange. Some injured themselves, others walkd into traffic, but there are few who attacked others. That was mostly the wino/druggie class. Not really 5150, but just up on their respective drugs. Entirely different people. As a street cop, I had many more of the latter. The suicides were mostly trying to get sympathy and attention to themselves.

 

[SL66]

I spent 3+ in the LAPD Mental Evaluation Unit, PM watch. Saw many certifiable 5150 WICs. None of the real crazies ever claimed to be abused, etc. I imagine that came about when they got lawyers. Few were actually violent, mostly just strange. Some injured themselves, others walkd into traffic, but there are few who attacked others. That was mostly the wino/druggie class. Not really 5150, but just up on their respective drugs. Entirely different people. As a street cop, I had many more of the latter. The suicides were mostly trying to get sympathy and attention to themselves.

Thank you for you service.

 

[Model 457]

The mentally ill used to be locked up, but then people started talking about the rights of the patients demanding those poor people be set free. God forbid we protect the average citizens from these dangerous loons. There is nothing to compel these folks to take their meds. Some of the meds have warnings against stopping cold turkey.
Some of these folks are just as dangerous as Charles Manson, maybe worse. While they are free to roam, we have every right to protect ourselves and others, just as we are free to protect ourselves from the vast criminal or terrorist element. It's not a conspiracy theory if people are out to get you.

My middle child has Schizophrenia. He is an adult now and has gone off the deep end a few times throughout his life. My ex and I have been fortunate in that he has always accepted our help when he is in a rough patch. But the medical professionals do EXACTLY what you said. Due to patient's rights, blah blah blah, it has not been easy getting him committed to straighten him back out with his meds when he needs it. We've been blessed in that he has never done anything violent. But when the cheese slides off his cracker, I can see how he easily could be justifiably killed by the police or a civilian. It truly breaks my heart for mentally ill people. They live a hell of a life. Truthfully, I'd rather be dead then go through the heartache my son has experienced. I often lay awake out of concern for him once his mom and I are gone. My daughter (my eldest) has told me many times she'd take him in when his mother and I bite the dust. I have a lot of loot set aside for his care once I am gone and told my daughter to put him in some sort of facility. Because she grew up with him and has seen it all, she thinks she can handle him. I've tried to explain to her that even if she can handle him, he will unfairly be a disruption to her family. youngolddude is 100% correct that the mentally ill are best served by a facility designed to accommodate their illness. Unfortunately society is greedy and the average dog pound is nicer than the average Giggle Factory.

 

[3L120]

My middle child has Schizophrenia. He is an adult now and has gone off the deep end a few times throughout his life. My ex and I have been fortunate in that he has always accepted our help when he is in a rough patch. But the medical professionals do EXACTLY what you said. Due to patient's rights, blah blah blah, it has not been easy getting him committed to straighten him back out with his meds when he needs it. We've been blessed in that he has never done anything violent. But when the cheese slides off his cracker, I can see how he easily could be justifiably killed by the police or a civilian. It truly breaks my heart for mentally ill people. They live a hell of a life. Truthfully, I'd rather be dead then go through the heartache my son has experienced. I often lay awake out of concern for him once his mom and I are gone. My daughter (my eldest) has told me many times she'd take him in when his mother and I bite the dust. I have a lot of loot set aside for his care once I am gone and told my daughter to put him in some sort of facility. Because she grew up with him and has seen it all, she thinks she can handle him. I've tried to explain to her that even if she can handle him, he will unfairly be a disruption to her family. youngolddude is 100% correct that the mentally ill are best served by a facility designed to accommodate their illness. Unfortunately society is greedy and the average dog pound is nicer than the average Giggle Factory.

No idea how many 5150s I talked to who were off their meds. Claiming they didn’t need them (which they did, drastically), or their meds made them sick, or, etc…. As you said, the true mentally impaired people need our sympathy, as opposed to those whose problems are drug related.