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School Me on Berettas, Please

DavidDSmith said:
As an ex-US Army helicopter pilot from before most peoples time, I was issued a S&W 38 revolver until my last year at Ft. Hood before leaving for Germany. I was issued a Beretta M9 and then had to qualify with it. Loved it compared to the heavy 38 revolver, and it was so much more comfortable in my survival vest. Once in Germany I was issued a brand new M9 and finally qualified with it after multiple rear sight adjustments. Highly recommend this pistol.
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I was the opposite. Having the Vietnam vet guys as flight chiefs and instructors in the USAF when they tried giving us the M9 we didn’t shoot them as well as our S&W Model 15’s we complained so our Commander said it was our option since we had to train the B52 aircrew on Model 15’s. So we had about a half and half mix (this was a year after Mel Gibson was Lethal Weapon Beretta 92 popular)

Even deployed to Desert Storm with my revolver as a secondary

When I changed bases in November 1991 I was forced to carry an M9.

That said I learned to shoot and really liked the M9 and as much as I wanted to hate it I couldn’t. Ours ran and ran and ran. I did Nuke security and we **** them a LOT.
Even our training M9’s with tons of rounds we never really had issues as others reportedly did.

Fast forward with my civilian agency the Beretta 92D Vertec while decent had a recurring issue of dead triggers on our training guns. The polymer trigger became “dead” when a groove got ground into it after a lot of use.

So that said if your particular Beretta has a polymer trigger I can’t recommend enough to spend the $$ to get a steel trigger, guide rode and safety/decock lever

Good luck!
 
only one i have is this neat little .22 plinker that looks like a ray gun
its fun for a boy and girl :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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ECS686 said:
I was the opposite. Having the Vietnam vet guys as flight chiefs and instructors in the USAF when they tried giving us the M9 we didn’t shoot them as well as our S&W Model 15’s we complained so our Commander said it was our option since we had to train the B52 aircrew on Model 15’s. So we had about a half and half mix (this was a year after Mel Gibson was Lethal Weapon Beretta 92 popular)

Even deployed to Desert Storm with my revolver as a secondary

When I changed bases in November 1991 I was forced to carry an M9.

That said I learned to shoot and really liked the M9 and as much as I wanted to hate it I couldn’t. Ours ran and ran and ran. I did Nuke security and we **** them a LOT.
Even our training M9’s with tons of rounds we never really had issues as others reportedly did.

Fast forward with my civilian agency the Beretta 92D Vertec while decent had a recurring issue of dead triggers on our training guns. The polymer trigger became “dead” when a groove got ground into it after a lot of use.

So that said if your particular Beretta has a polymer trigger I can’t recommend enough to spend the $$ to get a steel trigger, guide rode and safety/decock lever

Good luck!
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FANTASTIC report! :love: (y)

As a fellow USAF "Vietnam-era" vet, I am VERY familiar with the USAF M15s. I've never owned one but I do have a 4" M19, 4" M17, and 4" M28 (among others). As Ten Bears might put it, "There is iron in your words of M15, so there is iron in your words of M9 and Beretta 92D." ;)(y)

Thank you SO much for taking the time and making the effort to share. Much appreciated! Well Done and Drive On, my friend! (y);)
 
I tried a Beretta 92 series and even though they "work" I cannot hit with one. If I may offer a slight suggestion here try an overlooked handgun. Smith and Wesson M&P metal. I "LOVE" mine and everyone I let shoot it loves it as well. I believe it would meet all the criteria you are looking for. Plus their Customer Service is outstanding. Just my two cents...
 
Snake45 said:
I'd never heard of it, so I looked it up.

It seems to meet all my criteria: Action, caliber, capacity, and it's in my weight "sweet spot" at 27.5 ounces (very near my beloved Colt LW Commander). I didn't specify barrel length (I should have--it's 4.0 to 5.0 inches), and I didn't specify price/price range, but it seems to be in the "reasonable" range at about $800 or (hopefully) less.

So the HK P30L goes on my "short list." I'll make it a point to try to handle one somewhere and see if it fits my hand. ;)

You too earn a coveted "Well done!" from me on this, old friend! ;)(y)
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My second favorite handgun right now. I have a feeling if I had the slide cut for a green 507C it would become my favorite.
 
Love my 92XPD and have had no issues other than the optic mount filler plate and screw came off while I was shooting, However getting a response from Beretta customer service to have them replaced has been IMPOSSIBLE. So yes the Beretta USA customer service flat out sucks.

I've heard alot of rumblings lately about issues with the M9A4's and some of the 92 models being produced in the Gallatin factory, so maybe try and find yourself an M9A3 (still being made??), or the 92X Performance series, as those are still made in Italy.
 
BTW, if I didn't make it clear above, my search for my new "bellyband gun" isn't limited to Beretta. The Smith 5904 qualifies, as do I think at least some models of CZ-75, and the HK P30L mentioned above. To sum up, I'm looking for:

*9mm
*Hi-cap preferred but not required
*Full-size gun (no subcompacts) with 4 to 5 inch barrel
*Conventional SA/DA action (NOT striker-fired)
*Weight between 24 and 30 ounces (32 ounces maximum)
*Proven reliability with a wide variety of HP ammo
*"Affordable" price, not "semi-custom level" price; preferably available used.
*It's gotta fit my hand
*Reasonably priced magazines

Any other suggestions?
 
Snake45 said:
BTW, if I didn't make it clear above, my search for my new "bellyband gun" isn't limited to Beretta. The Smith 5904 qualifies, as do I think at least some models of CZ-75, and the HK P30L mentioned above. To sum up, I'm looking for:

*9mm
*Hi-cap preferred but not required
*Full-size gun (no subcompacts) with 4 to 5 inch barrel
*Conventional SA/DA action (NOT striker-fired)
*Weight between 24 and 30 ounces (32 ounces maximum)
*Proven reliability with a wide variety of HP ammo
*"Affordable" price, not "semi-custom level" price; preferably available used.
*It's gotta fit my hand
*Reasonably priced magazines

Any other suggestions?
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It’s not currently produced but I am partial to the Sig 225a1 for that. Hammer fired DA/SA single stack 8+1. Wish Sig still offered them
 
ECS686 said:
It’s not currently produced but I am partial to the Sig 225a1 for that. Hammer fired DA/SA single stack 8+1. Wish Sig still offered them
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Hadn't thought of Sigs, but I bet they have something that would qualify. I've only shot them twice and thought they were a bit big for my hand but I'll check 'em out again, and they should be available used. Thanks! ;)
 
ECS686 said:
Fast forward with my civilian agency the Beretta 92D Vertec while decent had a recurring issue of dead triggers on our training guns. The polymer trigger became “dead” when a groove got ground into it after a lot of use.

So that said if your particular Beretta has a polymer trigger I can’t recommend enough to spend the $$ to get a steel trigger, guide rode and safety/decock lever

Good luck!
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although my 92 FS (Italian made) had no issues, i just did not like the fact that it came with a "plastic" trigger, for the money i paid, as well as a "plastic" guide rod. it should have ALL been steel, just like all 3 of my CZ's......

so, from Beretta, i ordered thier steel trigger, trigger spring, hammer D spring, and steel guide rod, all for about $30-$40....money i think Beretta could have just as easily installed all those parts for cheaper on the assembly line and if they really needed to, maybe tack on an additional $25 per gun extra.

in sharp contrast, the USA made SS finish 92 FS, has a steel trigger, steel guide rod, so all i replaced was the hammer D spring....for like maybe $15.00
 
Snake45 said:
Hadn't thought of Sigs, but I bet they have something that would qualify. I've only shot them twice and thought they were a bit big for my hand but I'll check 'em out again, and they should be available used. Thanks! ;)
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The 225a1 can be found but you have to jump if you see one.

Another option Look at their M11a1 it’s the older 228 without a rail that is Glock 19 size you can find them but it will be around 800-1,000.to me worth it.

Or a standard 229. (The Legion 229 has a longer tang on the backstrap you might not like as far as carrying concealed)

I was issued an older 228 for about 11 years. Great gun
 
ECS686 said:
I was the opposite. Having the Vietnam vet guys as flight chiefs and instructors in the USAF when they tried giving us the M9 we didn’t shoot them as well as our S&W Model 15’s we complained so our Commander said it was our option since we had to train the B52 aircrew on Model 15’s. So we had about a half and half mix (this was a year after Mel Gibson was Lethal Weapon Beretta 92 popular)

Even deployed to Desert Storm with my revolver as a secondary

When I changed bases in November 1991 I was forced to carry an M9.

That said I learned to shoot and really liked the M9 and as much as I wanted to hate it I couldn’t. Ours ran and ran and ran. I did Nuke security and we **** them a LOT.
Even our training M9’s with tons of rounds we never really had issues as others reportedly did.

Fast forward with my civilian agency the Beretta 92D Vertec while decent had a recurring issue of dead triggers on our training guns. The polymer trigger became “dead” when a groove got ground into it after a lot of use.

So that said if your particular Beretta has a polymer trigger I can’t recommend enough to spend the $$ to get a steel trigger, guide rode and safety/decock lever

Good luck!
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After OSI issued the M9 when they first came out in the 80's to replace the subcompact 1911, it soon became apparent it presented concealment problems, especially for smaller framed agents. I thought the M9 was one of the most accurate pistols I had ever fired. They were soon replaced with the SIG M11, a superb carry pistol which lasted 30 years.

Now agents can carry a personally owned weapon from an approved list of 27 guns, but their basic issue is now a Glock 19 or Glock 26. FLETC influence.
 
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The only issue I had with the M9 was I kept flipping the safety on during reloads and immediate action drills. I had to abandon the slingshot method and go over the top of the slide for those during qualifications.
 
Snake45 said:
BTW, if I didn't make it clear above, my search for my new "bellyband gun" isn't limited to Beretta. The Smith 5904 qualifies, as do I think at least some models of CZ-75, and the HK P30L mentioned above. To sum up, I'm looking for:

*9mm
*Hi-cap preferred but not required
*Full-size gun (no subcompacts) with 4 to 5 inch barrel
*Conventional SA/DA action (NOT striker-fired)
*Weight between 24 and 30 ounces (32 ounces maximum)
*Proven reliability with a wide variety of HP ammo
*"Affordable" price, not "semi-custom level" price; preferably available used.
*It's gotta fit my hand
*Reasonably priced magazines

Any other suggestions?
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Sig 226 Mk25 although it tops out at 34 ounces. Track record is undeniable.
 
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