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To quote President Obama, “We won…”. God-willing this will change.I agree with you. But government has a different policy. We have to deal with what we currently have.
To quote President Obama, “We won…”. God-willing this will change.I agree with you. But government has a different policy. We have to deal with what we currently have.
yeah, unless he had a "magblock", then most likely that particular magazine was still capable of holding more rounds...dumb on his part to "assume" he'd be good.I just recently read on another forum about a guy who was mad because his buddy carried into state with a 10 rd capacity, got pulled over by the police, told them he was carrying from X state and got arrested because he had a high capacity mag in his gun. He thought if he only put 10 rds in he would be good. Turns out he wasn’t.
That being the case his involvement is quite minimal.he merely said he would sign the law - not make it. That would mean congress has to write it, approve it and senate ratify it and only then send to his desk for signing. Relax.
well, he's gonna have to push it to happen.Trump Reaffirms Push for National Concealed Carry Reciprocity - The Truth About Guns
In a decisive message released this weekend, President-elect Donald Trump reaffirmed his commitment to protecting Second Amendment rights, announcing his intent to implement national concealed carry reciprocity once he takes office. This proposed legislation would require all 50 states to...www.thetruthaboutguns.com
President-Elect Trump Promises National Concealed Carry Reciprocity
President-Elect Donald Trump reaffirmed his commitment to protecting the Second Amendment by announcing his push for national concealed carry reciprocity.www.ammoland.com
Well Cornyn worked on the gun control bill they passed after Uvalde.well, he's gonna have to push it to happen.
i saw a video where the 3 guys up for Mitch McConnel's post are not exactly 2A friendly folk.
Yeah Thune and Cornyn need to stand down. They wouldn't be any better than McConnell. I think Rick Scott would be a great leader.Well Cornyn worked on the gun control bill they passed after Uvalde.
I think it'll be Rick Scott. I hope.
its the "guns and gadgets" guy....Well Cornyn worked on the gun control bill they passed after Uvalde.
I think it'll be Rick Scott. I hope.
Got to agree with you here, especially regarding not allowing POTUS to make law, except the 2nd Amd makes concealed carry and any other firearm issue in fact a federal issue. No state can circumvent a federal/constitutional issue without a constitutional amendment. Constitution always takes precedence to states rights, except where specified in the constitution to be different. I'm betting that's the tact he will entice congress to take. Only congress can make law, and that's the way it should be.The President does not make laws, nor do I want him to no matter who is in office. I don't want the Feds dictating to states what should be a state issue because even though it might be something I support this time, it may not be next time around.
Hans, we have to expect that if in fact a national recip law does go into effect as it should, it will be written as that ... a law that applies the same regardless of what state, unlike the mishmash there is today. It's crazy to expect anyone to learn a different set of standards across state lines on the very same topic.I agree with the argument that CC is no different than drivers or marriage licenses.
One thing, though—one will have to be VERY aware of the use of force/carry laws if you’re in a state other than your own (I’m gonna go off the assumption that anyone with half a brain would know their own state laws…but that’s likely optimistic).
I think there’s be a few folks that think the laws in their home state—eg, no duty to retreat, mag capacity, or even type of ammo allowed (see: New Jersey)—will be universal…there would be more than a few rude awakenings, there, should nation reciprocity be made law.
Well, there ya' are!!! Easy/peasy!The only CC law I consider valid is the one that says if you aren't a prohibited person you can't be charged with a crime for concealing a firearm. No other permits or criteria.
This is exactly the reason that any recip Federal CC law would have to be the law. The same criteria (whatever congress decides) in every state.i just found this on an anti-gun site, do the "facts" they say seem to hold water..???
just asking........
Myth
Concealed carry permits should be treated just like driver’s licenses. A person licensed to drive in one state is allowed to drive in every other state, and a person legally allowed to carry a hidden, loaded handgun in one state should be allowed to do so in every other state.
Fact
There are major differences between driver’s license laws and concealed carry laws. Driver’s license applicants are required to meet core public safety standards with little variation among states, and states voluntarily recognize each other’s driver’s licenses as a result.
But concealed carry standards vary dramatically across the country—including on safety training, disqualifying violent criminal convictions, and even the requirement to get a permit at all. Concealed Carry Reciprocity would not create a national standard for who can carry hidden, loaded handguns in public.
Instead, it would force all states to accept every other state’s standards, including those states with weaker or no standards. Every state requires a driver’s license to drive a car, but several states don’t require a permit to carry a concealed handgun in public, and many states don’t require any safety training. Forcing every state to allow these individuals to carry concealed handguns would be like forcing states to let visitors drive on their highways without a driver’s license and without having passed an eye, written, or road test.
Block Concealed Carry Reciprocity | Everytown
Federal concealed carry reciprocity (CCR) legislation would gut state standards for who may carry hidden, loaded handguns in public.www.everytown.org
Every state has their own traffic laws; eg, speed limits, right turn on red, using mobile devices, etc.Hans, we have to expect that if in fact a national recip law does go into effect as it should, it will be written as that ... a law that applies the same regardless of what state, unlike the mishmash there is today. It's crazy to expect anyone to learn a different set of standards across state lines on the very same topic.
One isn’t a constitutional right.Every state has their own traffic laws; eg, speed limits, right turn on red, using mobile devices, etc.
It’s on the driver to know the laws when they drive in that state.
Carry should be no different.
Hans, you've just made my point ... traffic laws on state hiways are state controlled. However, traffic laws on federal hiways are federal as are many other laws such as seat belts. And in fact some of the examples you gave are Federal rather than state. For example the 'Right turn on Red after Complete Stop' is a federal mandated statute from the early 90's iirc. I think I'm in agreement with you on the mobile devices ... certain ones anyway. However I don't believe every state currently bans cell phone use as there is no federal law against it, neither is there currently a federal law against all radar detectors.Every state has their own traffic laws; eg, speed limits, right turn on red, using mobile devices, etc.
It’s on the driver to know the laws when they drive in that state.
Carry should be no different.
Another issue that keeps popping up in my mind is how the current CC laws can and do affect your/our right to travel. I recognize it's our choice whether or not we carry into or across certain states while traveling, but my question is should we be forced to make that decision? Or better said, should we be required by any state law to decide to leave our self defense implement behind or modify it in order to travel freely according to that state?Every state has their own traffic laws; eg, speed limits, right turn on red, using mobile devices, etc.
It’s on the driver to know the laws when they drive in that state.
Carry should be no different.
Travel is, in fact, a constitutional right; and if the 2A is flexible enough to apply to modern systems (TV, radio, internet, modern firearms), then it would apply to modern modes of travel as well.One isn’t a constitutional right.
No, states preempt laws on federal highways; see: speed limits on interstates.Hans, you've just made my point ... traffic laws on state hiways are state controlled. However, traffic laws on federal hiways are federal as are many other laws such as seat belts. And in fact some of the examples you gave are Federal rather than state. For example the 'Right turn on Red after Complete Stop' is a federal mandated statute from the early 90's iirc. I think I'm in agreement with you on the mobile devices ... certain ones anyway. However I don't believe every state currently bans cell phone use as there is no federal law against it, neither is there currently a federal law against all radar detectors.
My point was and is that in event of a federal law, the law must be the same across all 50 states.