Bassbob
Emissary
That’s a stretch. It may be unconstitutional to restrict a law abiding citizen from traveling, but operating a motor vehicle on a public road is expressly a privilege.
Conceal Carry Reciprocity
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Ginkus
Operator
Disagree. Driving is a privilege. Being armed is a constitutional right. Unfortunately, the states have to be forced to obey the Constitution.
jumpinjoe
Hellcat
Hans, with all due respect, I'm pretty sure states can and sometimes do "preempt" federal hiway laws with federal approval. Without it, the feds typically withhold federal hiway funding. I guess it's a 'tit4tat kind of thing. But state law cannot supersede federal law if there is a federal law concerned. By the same token, states cannot be forced to enforce some federal law.
Biggfoot44
Elite
Still doesn't change anything with Tyrone already packing .
And Tyrone is already inherently illegal , so nothing new is needed to bust Tyrone .
PAGunGuy
Master Class
Exactly, I work in law enforcement, too.
It's very common for people who are not legally allowed to possess/carry a firearm to get busted for it. Multiple times even for the same person.
As you said, it would still be illegal for them to carry even if the whole country went Constitutional Carry.
And there is no reason there should be ANY requirements for someone to legally carry
HayesGreener
Ronin
Tyrone is such a tragic figure.
The Night Rider
Professional
Wait, what happened to "The Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"?
Is Tyrone not part of "The People"?
Prior to 1968 Tyrone could have walked into a pawn shop on the way home from prison and bought a gun and he would have been legal.
PAGunGuy
Master Class
For me, if Tyrone has served his time, he's free to legally keep and bear. I don't think a felon should lose their rights once they have served their sentence
bc22wm
Custom
Add in "completely" and I'm 100% with you. That includes probation, parole, restitution.
Biggfoot44
Elite
3L120 started the hypothetical example , just continuing the set up .
Same thing if John Doe or Frank Smith were multiple time Prohibited Person rolling thru en route to Nefarious Deeds .
Reciprocity or not ,
Con Carry or not ,
John & Frank would still be illegal , and still be same degree of difficulty to catch .
HayesGreener
Ronin
I have met Tyrone. You would not want him marrying your daughter. 
Ginkus
Operator
Let us take a quick look at the 1st Amendment. I can say what I want in any state (unless I am obscene or encouraging illegal activity), because it is my right (also protected by the Constitution). I do not need a license to speak. Why then with the 2nd, must I have permission from the ‘man’ to protect my life. The other nine amendments in the Bill of Rights need no further ‘permission.’ Is the 2nd Amendment a second class ammendment? No! Our country needs a serious realignment when it comes to my carrying a weapon to defend myself. It is a Federal Constitution issue, not a state’s issue. As said earlier driving is a privilege, and a state issue. My life is a right given by the LORD God! To hell with men who think otherwise!
The Night Rider
Professional
Ginkus
Operator
Amen!
Phoenex
Operator
I travel to Indiana from NC about once a year. Each year before I go I use the USCCA website and review changes in each states laws. Its a little bit of work but it can save you a lot of headaches.
I do the same before we head out in the camper-every time. Laws can and do change and it is Your responsibility to know what is and is Not legal where you travel.
Phoenex
Operator
"several states don’t require a permit to carry a concealed handgun in public, and many states don’t require any safety training. Forcing every state to allow these individuals to carry concealed handguns would be like forcing states to let visitors drive on their highways without a driver’s license and without having passed an eye, written, or road test".i just found this on an anti-gun site, do the "facts" they say seem to hold water..???
just asking........
Myth
Concealed carry permits should be treated just like driver’s licenses. A person licensed to drive in one state is allowed to drive in every other state, and a person legally allowed to carry a hidden, loaded handgun in one state should be allowed to do so in every other state.
Fact
There are major differences between driver’s license laws and concealed carry laws. Driver’s license applicants are required to meet core public safety standards with little variation among states, and states voluntarily recognize each other’s driver’s licenses as a result.
But concealed carry standards vary dramatically across the country—including on safety training, disqualifying violent criminal convictions, and even the requirement to get a permit at all. Concealed Carry Reciprocity would not create a national standard for who can carry hidden, loaded handguns in public.
Instead, it would force all states to accept every other state’s standards, including those states with weaker or no standards. Every state requires a driver’s license to drive a car, but several states don’t require a permit to carry a concealed handgun in public, and many states don’t require any safety training. Forcing every state to allow these individuals to carry concealed handguns would be like forcing states to let visitors drive on their highways without a driver’s license and without having passed an eye, written, or road test.
Block Concealed Carry Reciprocity | Everytown
Federal concealed carry reciprocity (CCR) legislation would gut state standards for who may carry hidden, loaded handguns in public.www.everytown.org
The author of this piece obviously doesn't understand "Constitutional Carry". States with CC allow for concealed carry only within the boundaries of the state. If you want to travel outside the state you are required to have a CCW. The anti-gun people will read and accept without questioning the validity of the piece or the authors level of knowledge.
Bassbob
Emissary
Yes but the vast majority of CC states do not have a requirement of state citizenship. So in effect as long as you travel through only CC states, you already have reciprocity.