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Yeah, just like my edc, I pray that I'll never have to use them.

I have 2 Rat Terriers. One wouldn't do much except back up the first one, but Momma dog would tear you a new one and go back for seconds. She's built like a miniature pit bull. I don't need much time though and they'll give me enough.

Dogs at the foot of the bed, and loaded out just in case.

The 4.25" AOS Operator is now on my short list

I doubt we'll see the VIS transfer to other models in the near future, but I guess anything is possible. Who would've thought we'd start seeing ported models from the factory?

They discontinued the EMP Contour Carry about 2 years ago. I had one and ended up selling it.

The P99 Final Edition is on my short list. I was going to get the Final Edition since it's also in my fav color, but the price kept me away. I may see if I can get a used one in the future.

You can go to the Springfield website below and see if your optic is listed. https://support.springfield-armory.com/manuals/echelon-manual?section=1zK7mglgWM011scIVXvHfv&topic=2D6W5oYlTLaQyRCCtrrGqg

What brand/model is the optic?

My EDC is my Echelon, and my backup is the Mc9.

You never know, you might like it. But I won't hold it against you if you don't.. :LOL:

I was a huge PDP guy. I've had quite a few of them over the last few years. I really thought the PDP was great until I shot the Echelon. Now all my PDP's are gone and the Echelons have taken their place.

I don't think gun oil evaporates. I also use Lucas oil and I have noticed a few dry rails and parts, but I attribute that to storing my guns with the barrels pointed down and the oil naturally drains out. I just relube my guns before the range and have no issues.

ALL firearm manufacturers (including the all-vaunted Glock) have issued a faulty firearm (or more) at least once in their manufacturing lifetimes. It happens. Send the firearm back to Springfield or don't, it's up to you. But don't get on a firearms forum and gripe about a gun without letting...

This^^ Excellent quality and you can usually find them on sale.

I'm leaning more towards the Sharps Bros. Even though it doesn't have the full dust cover, it is designed to work with both the full size and the upcoming compact Echelons. I also like the interchangeable grip panels. The Icarus is interesting, I've looked at their other grip modules and...

I have owb holsters also and carry under a loose shirt most of the time. The holster I use now is a slightly modified 1791 leather holster which is very comfortable and sits tight to my body.

strong side, iwb. I'm a chubby guy and can't carry appendix.

My edc is my Echelon. I don't carry with the optic though, it's too bulky with it.

Yeah, I guess so...... :LOL: