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Prodigy issues

Just got finished with some range time with @SimonRL and his Prodigy.

Nice shooting pistol.

His first 3 rounds at 10 yards: touching
Rest of mag was nice grouping

Nothing wrong with a Prodigy

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I’m new here not to 1911s or 2011s.I was wondering if anyone else is having nothing but issues in these new pistols. I’ll attach a few of the FTF and the disconnecter locking back the frame without the stop engaged. Also having light strikes and failure to return to battery. Used mbx sti and SA mags.Used Fjm and no chance of hollow points working.SA has it back now so I guess we’ll see but any feed back is appreciated. And yes….. I painfully “broke in” the run with 600 assorted rounds. Thanks everyone
I’m in the same boat as you bud. Overall what is SA going to do so that who ever got these don’t feel like we got ripped off. So what what is the exact issue or issues and how are they being fixed.
 
I’m in the same boat as you bud. Overall what is SA going to do so that who ever got these don’t feel like we got ripped off. So what what is the exact issue or issues and how are they being fixed.
Nobody got ripped off, if you own a Prodigy and are having issues with it, first read this whole thread, second contact Springfield Armory.
A heads up Ario21 has been removed from the forum for being rude and disrespectful, don’t be that guy.
We are all here to help.
 
Nobody got ripped off, if you own a Prodigy and are having issues with it, first read this whole thread, second contact Springfield Armory.
A heads up Ario21 has been removed from the forum for being rude and disrespectful, don’t be that guy.
We are all here to help.
No trying to be that guy bud. We are all looking for help. These days it’s not easy to dish out $1600 and not wonder after all the bad reviews this piece got including mine to feel that maybe my buy with this Prodigy is not worth it and having to deal with this problem now. I’m sure SA will do something about it and me and the others having problems will have to just deal with it. But I appreciate your feed back.
 
I dont own a Prodigy, but shot another forum member’s pistol today.
Runs like a champ.
I did extremely well with it, right out of the gate .
We ran 60 rounds thru it in short order and had zero issues.

I dont think this pistol is suffering from teething issues like the SA-35.

First impression was excellent.
 
No trying to be that guy bud. We are all looking for help. These days it’s not easy to dish out $1600 and not wonder after all the bad reviews this piece got including mine to feel that maybe my buy with this Prodigy is not worth it and having to deal with this problem now. I’m sure SA will do something about it and me and the others having problems will have to just deal with it. But I appreciate your feed back.
Here's a quoted forum post from @xdman He's another member of the forum, he's an early tester of firearms and a online video reviewer. Maybe this info can help with your issues.

Quote:
Also important add oil to the rails and manually rack the slide and dry fire. You are wearing the parts into each other. In the video I did the trigger got better and sweeter with time. It is way cheaper to hand rack the slide, dry fire and repeat.
 
Nobody got ripped off, if you own a Prodigy and are having issues with it, first read this whole thread, second contact Springfield Armory.
A heads up Ario21 has been removed from the forum for being rude and disrespectful, don’t be that guy.
We are all here to help.
Yes you are correct. His complaint about the Prodigy is within the rules. And the thread was not removed, just the OP.
 
I’m in the same boat as you bud. Overall what is SA going to do so that who ever got these don’t feel like we got ripped off. So what what is the exact issue or issues and how are they being fixed.

The following is simply an opinion garnered from years of working in IT in the automotive manufacturing environment.

What buyers of any product, especially a new product line, must realize is that in any mass production line there will be products with issues which get to the general public.

Testing each and every item and or component before it is shipped is simply not done, to do so requires a level of production akin to custom products, which is fine if that small niche market is your target audience. This means less product, and greater costs for those who are willing to pay. For those who are not, less testing and more reliance working problems out that crop up is the norm.

The vast majority of issues are generally ironed out in preproduction or within the first production run of a new product, with help from the consumer. Problems can crop up post development test in many areas, production processes, or components, both purchased and manufactured.

Levels of issue which make it to the consumer are usually small but there are glaring examples otherwise such as the Remington R51 which had such major issues in its short production life.

What this all means is:
If one purchases a product within say the first 6 months to a year, the odds of more issues with said product are greater than buying after the initial teething problems.


It's just part of having the very latest and greatest. And you will be at the mercy of the companies repair facilities. Luckily SA has a good reputation for customer repairs. Patience and politeness go a long ways in dealing with said issues and the people who fix them.

Just an opinion.
 
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The following is simply an opinion garnered from years of working in IT in the automotive manufacturing environment.

What buyers of any product, especially a new product line, must realize is that in any mass production line there will be products with issues which get to the general public.

Testing each and every item and or component before it is shipped is simply not done, to do so requires a level of production akin to custom products, which is fine if that small niche market is your target audience. This means less product, and greater costs for those who are willing to pay. For those who are not, less testing and more reliance working problems out that crop up is the norm.

The vast majority of issues are generally ironed out in preproduction or within the first production run of a new product, with help from the consumer. Problems can crop up post development test in many areas, production processes, or components, both purchased and manufactured.

Levels of issue which make it to the consumer are usually small but there are glaring examples otherwise such as the Remington R51 which had such major issues in its short production life.

What this all means is:
If one purchases a product within say the first 6 months to a year, the odds of more issues with said product are greater than buying after the initial teething problems.


It's just part of having the very latest and greatest. And you will be at the mercy of the companies repair facilities. Luckily SA has a good reputation for customer repairs. Patience and politeness go a long ways in dealing with said issues and the people who fix them.

Just an opinion.
I will point out that manufacturing issues are not related to just firearms.

Auto makers have recalls galore on vehicles.
Every single auto maker.
Yet, folks continue to buy cars and trucks. It is a tool that can end your life when it fails as well.

I had an issue with my SA-35. Prompt service with SA. Gun runs fine now.

Here is an example of manufacturing issues and customer service resolution:

Debris / foreign objects were found for 2 yrs in new Boeing Tankers being delivered to the Air Force. While airplanes and guns are worlds apart, I want to point out that that as @Sld1959 points out, dont expect every new item to be 100% perfect for 100% of the items.

 
Seriously, when my RO Operator acted up I could have gone on here and ranted, but that gets you nowhere, I just tried a couple things, one worked out perfect and I enjoy shooting it, I’ll say it again social media will be the end of things, you will always find internet tough guys…….usually these are the ones who live in there parents basements yet…….😬
 
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